The
Three Bidding Strategies Found
Here
Perhaps no other topic gets so much
attention on the Bidding Board other than this one.
This page will present three bidding strategies on
Ebay. All three types of strategies here have
gained a certain level of support from its users.
They each have advantages and disadvantages.
Which one is right for you?
Strategy 1: The Incremental (aka. Lowball)
Bid
This is the type of bid which raises
the current bid by exactly one increment. When
this bidder enters their maximum bid, it always matches
the minimum amount necessary in order to bid.
Typically, this type of bid is most common in the
earlier stages of the auction.
Advantages
(1)
The bidder knows in advance exactly how much that
they will pay for the item if they win the auction.
(2) This bid type is resistant to certain types of
shill bidders. If the shill bidder expected
the lowballer to have a higher proxy, then the shill
bidder will end up taking the lead on their own auction.
(3) If this bid manages to win the auction, then the
bidder will have paid the least amount of money necessary
for them to do so.
(4) If the opening bid is somewhere near or at the
market value of the item, the lowballer could bid
that amount and be the first one to "claim" that particular
price. This holds true especially if the next
bid increment would require exceeding the market value.
Others may be discouraged from bidding because of
this. Therefore, the lowballer could win the
auction with the opening bid.
(5) If the item is part of a Dutch Auction, the lowballer
can still win an item and be outbid by some other
people at the same time. The odds of success
are determined by approximate market value of the
item, the value of the opening bid, the number of
items up for sale, and the number of bidders in the
end. The added bonus to this is that everyone
will pay at the lowest winning price.
(6) If you bid early, you will be unaffected if one
of Ebay's famous outages were to occur.
Disadvantages
(1)
Any other bid can beat the lowball bid. Once
someone else bids, that is it. The only way
for the lowballer to take the lead is to bid again.
I once saw an auction where the lowballer bid 42 times
to try and maintain the lead. They ultimately
lost that auction.
(2) Some shill scams are still effective against the
lowballer. In particular, the shill bidder may
bid the next increment in hopes of enticing the lowballer
into a bidding war.
(3) Bidding wars! If another lowballer shows
up, both bidders may end up "fighting" over the item
in a very long and tense incremental struggle.
This will in a sense mimic the style of live auctions.
It will take a lot of unnecessary energy, especially
for the eventual loser(s), to maintain the lead.
In the end, it is entirely possible that neither of
this dueling pair of lowballers will win the auction.
(4) If the bid is placed early, and the lowballer
has the high bid for days, they could gain some emotional
attachment to the object. The danger here is
that they could very well be outbid in the late stages
of the auction. Many people find this very frustrating.
See the Soapbox and Bidding Boards to see what I mean.
(5) If the bid is placed early AND the lowballer is
outbid still relatively early, there is danger of
a retraction reinstating the lowballer as the high
bidder. This could be exceptionally troubling
if the lowballer has moved on to another auction and
now is winning both auctions. Early bids require
the bidder to assume that they must pay for all items
bid on EVEN if they are outbid. That means having
one's money tied up on speculation for possibly days
on end.
Strategy 2: The Proxy Bid
Proxy bids are often misunderstood
by people who are fairly new to Ebay. Actually,
they can also be confusing to a handful of veterans
too. This bid involves the use of Ebay's automatic
proxy system. Here, the bidder has entered a
maximum bid that exceeds the minimum amount necessary
in order to bid. If the proxy user's initial
bid is in turn outbid, then Ebay will bid on this
person's behalf until they either regain the lead
OR their maximum has been exceeded (leaving the proxy
bidder outbid). The value of the proxy
bidder's maximum bid is hidden to all buyers and the
seller unless the proxy bidder is outbid. Proxy
bids are common throughout the life of the auction.
Advantages
(1)
If the bidder knows their exact maximum, then they
only need to bid once. Of course, the proxy
bidder needs to have their maximum bid amount well
thought out in order for this to work best.
Once that maximum bid is placed, there is only one
way left to lose the auction. Simply, someone
would have to be willing to pay more than the proxy
bidder. If that is the case, no harm is done.
(2) If the proxy bidder's maximum bid is later tied
until the close of the auction by another bidder,
the first bid will break the tie and win. In
the case of this proxy bidder, the early bird gets
the worm.
(3) An early proxy bid will provide time for the bidder
to rethink their maximum bid later on. This
is for those who are not sure what their maximum bid
is, but want to put something down in the meantime
while figuring it out.
(4) Once the bid is placed, the proxy bidder does
not have to be present at the end of the auction in
order to win. As long as the maximum bid is
not exceeded, the bidder will win if the auction ends
in their absence. This is extremely effective
for those with ultra busy schedules or even those
who do not want to give their password out to an automatic
bidding service.
(5) A proxy can beat a snipe (Strategy 3). Yes,
that is exactly what I said. The proxy bid could
very well be the final and winning bid in an auction
even in the presence of a snipe! If that late
bid is not enough to beat the proxy maximum, then
the proxy will win, and the sniper will not get another
chance. This scenario is more common than many
people realize.
(6) If you bid early, you will be unaffected if one
of Ebay's famous outages were to occur.
Disadvantages
(1)
If the proxy is placed early, the bidder has a greater
chance of having their maximum nibbled away by indecisive
lowballers or even shill bidders. The longer
the wait, the more time there is for someone to beat
that maximum.
(2) There is one scam that allows someone to sniff
out a proxy bidder's maximum bid. Someone could
bid ridiculously high, taking the lead by one increment.
Obviously, they could deduct by that lead what the
proxy max is. Then, they retract with the "wrong
amount" excuse. Now, the proxy is exposed.
Someone using Strategy 3 just might take advantage
of this information....
(3) If the bid is placed early on and the maximum
proxy outbid, the early bidder must assume that they
still could win the auction. You can thank bid
retractors for this. If someone retracts, YOU
could be reinstated as the high bidder. That
means that the proxy bidder must assume that they
will still end up winning the auction at the maximum
amount. Therefore, they cannot feel free to
bid on other auctions for the same item until the
auction has ended.
(4) By bidding early, other people who collect the
same thing that you do could perform a search of your
ID to see what you are bidding on. Then, they
will follow you around from auction to auction and
bid on the same item that you are bidding on.
You do all the work, and if they have deeper pockets
than you, they will get all of the benefits of it.
Strategy 3: The Time-Awareness Bid (aka,
the Snipe)
This
bid can be incremental or it can be a proxy bid.
However, it has one special added feature to it that
so distinguishes it from the other two bidding strategies.
This bid is placed so late in the auction, that no
one will be able to manually respond to it before
the auction ends. It is the most talked about
and controversial type bid on Ebay. Englandboy's
page
reflects the official Ebay position as well as comments
made by the opponents of this bidding strategy.
Several home pages have been made about this
single subject. Phil's
page has 12 advantages, if you would like
the exact details. Cruentidei has a great
summary of all the "proposed
solutions" to sniping. The most common
reaction for someone who has been sniped is to wish
for an auction extension. Tiptie has the sniper's
school to learn how to snipe like a champ.
I prefer to use the term time-awareness bidding, but
most people know it as a snipe. Snipe seems
like such an ugly word, doesn't it. Like
the other two bidding strategies, this bidding style
will have its advantages and disadvantages.
Advantages
(1)
No one knows you are coming. You will evade
shill bidders, retractors, lowball nibblers, bidding
wars, and the rest of the circus. You are going
to be very instrumental in setting the final value
of the item and determining who wins. If you
have the highest bid, guess what? It's you.
(2) No one will have time to manually respond
to your bid. If you take the lead against everyone
else (lowballers, proxy bidders, and potentially other
snipers) as the auction is grinding to a halt, who
wins? It's you. Many might wish for a
second chance to bid, yet they will not get one.
(3) You will not have your money tied up for days
waiting for the outcome. Your wait for a final
verdict will be very short. Then, you will know
exactly what to do next.
(4) No one can discover your maximum bid, because
there is no time to initiate that high bid and retract
scam to find it. If you win by less than your
maximum bid, only you will ever know what you would
have been willing to pay for the item.
(5) No one can perform a search on you to see what
you are bidding on. They cannot follow you around
from auction to auction because you are cloaked in
secrecy.
Disadvantages
(1)
The time-awareness bidder only has one shot.
If they bid and miss the a proxy bidder's maximum,
there will be no second chance. A true snipe
is where after you bid, no one (not even you) can
manually counter bid.
(2) If Ebay has an outage, bids cannot be placed.
In order for an auction to be extended, the outage
has to last a couple of hours if I am not mistaken.
I have only seen auctions extended one time, but have
witnessed several outages. Thus, the sniper
risks not being able to bid on the auction if the
outage time runs over the auction end time.
(3) If you snipe, you may receive e-mails from some
very unsportsmanlike individuals belittling you for
outbidding them. True, you still have won, but
it can be annoying.
Summary
Well, there you have it. Ebay
has three bidding strategies. All three of them
are used in full force. Proponents of each are
convinced that their style works best for them.
What works best for you? The correct answer
is the one that you are the most comfortable with
AND the one that you would not regret using even if
you are outbid in the auction. All of these
strategies have their merits and their troubles.
All are legal binding bids no matter what the circumstance.
Some people use multiple strategies depending on the
auction. There are various reasons why someone
might pick one strategy over another. However,
incremental, proxy, and time-awareness bids are equally
legitimate. On the message boards, people gladly
point out the advantages of their own strategy.
That works for me. Unfortunately, some people
feel compelled to want to ban one or more of these
strategies because they do not understand why people
would bid that way. This is where I have a problem.
Everyone goes by the same clock, so there is no tactical
advantage for anyone in particular. We all bid
with the same information. Why should someone
force everyone to bid their way because they do not
understand everyone else's way? This page is
presented in hopes of giving someone a chance to see
the auction process through the eyes of each bidder
type. Pick the one(s) that works for you, and
good luck to you! |