Time
Conscious
Proxy Bidding
By
sir_snipes_alot
Welcome, to my help page on Time Conscious Proxy Bidding
(aka ‘sniping’). The fact that you are reading my page
means one that you have recently lost an auction to
a last minute or second bid, and have probably raised
a question or complaint because of this.
I
too had the same experience as you. My very first auction
on eBay resulted in me losing an auction item at the
last possible second. My first reaction was probably
very much the same as yours - I was surprised, angry,
and confused on how this could happen. I felt like the
item was taken from me, and certainly felt that this
could not be legal, and to make things worse, they only
beat me by ONE increment more than my bid!
After
pouting for a few minutes, I decided to explore the
rules and bidding recommendations. What I found changed
my entire view on eBay bidding strategy. I’ll walk through
a few of the rules and recommendations I found, then
I’ll try and review the three most popular bidding strategies
I have found on eBay.
Is
Time Conscious Proxy Bidding Legal?
The
short answer is simply - yes.
You can read eBay’s official position on the bidding
strategy Here.
Is
Time Conscious Proxy Bidding Fair?
The short answer again is simply - yes.
You
may read otherwise from some posters on the message
boards, these few individuals will often proclaim the
unfairness of the bidding strategy - but are never willing
to provide any factual reason or reference to back up
their claim.
I’ll
list for you the reasons I believe the bidding strategy
is fair - feel free to contrast my position with the
position of the other eBay users I mentioned above.
1.)
Every auction has a stated beginning and ending time
- this ending time is fixed and available to all bidders.
2.) A bid may be placed by any registered eBay user
at any point in the auction - there are no rules which
prohibit bidding during any portion of the open auction
period. All bidders have exactly the same access.
3.) eBAy provides each and every bidder the exact same
ability to bid as little or as much on an item as they
would like.
4.) Every bidder is free to determine for them selves
when they would like to bid, how much they would like
to bid, and how often they would like to bid.
5.) Information and help pages regarding bidding rules,
proxy bidding, etcetera are available on the site map
for all users who wish to learn the finer points of
bidding. No user is excluded from learning as much about
bidding as they would like.
6.) eBay always delcares the winner to be the bidder
who has entered the highest bid amount - regardless
of when the bid was placed.
Can
I beat a Time Conscious Proxy Bid?
Again
the short answer is - yes.
The
single most critical point to remember regarding any
bidding strategy on eBay is that the highest bid always
wins. A last second bid can not beat a higher bid which
was placed earlier in the auction. High bid wins EVERY
time.
The
primary bidding strategy recommended by eBay is proxy
bidding.
You are encouraged to bid only once and bid for the
absolute maximum you are willing to pay for an auction
item - eBay will bid on your behalf and only use the
absolute minimum of your bid that is required to keep
you in the lead. If you follow this recommendation,
the only auctions you lose will be those where another
bidder was simply willing to pay more than you were.
The
only difference between proxy bidding (which is highly
recommended by eBay) and a ‘time conscious proxy bid’
is the timing of the bid - a proxy bid is placed at
any time in the auction, while a Time Conscious Proxy
Bid is placed late in the auction.
Can
an auction be extended if a time conscious proxy bid
is placed?
The
short answer here is - no.
This
is an often suggested idea by many new users who have
lost auctions in the last minute. While I could write
a long page on why this is not a good solution - I will
only point out that this solution would require ALL
bidders to be present and place their bids in the final
minute of an auction.
Luckily,
eBay has a position page on auction
extensions.
As you can see this has been considered and rejected
as a solution to a problem that does not exist.
The
Three Major Bidding Strategies
Incremental
Bidding
Incremental
bidding is placing a bid for the minimum amount possible
on an auction item. This bid may or may not place the
bidder in the lead - depending on the proxy amount place
by the previous high bidder.
Advantages:
1.)
You always know that any bid placed after yours will
outbid you.
Disadvantages:
1.)
You may have to bid many times one increment at a time
in order to overcome a previously placed proxy bid.
2.) Any bid placed following yours will outbid you.
3.) Your bid history will be readily available to anyone
doing a search by bidder.
4.) You must constantly watch the auction item to make
sure you are still in the lead.
5.) You will have to be present, watching, and refreshing
the auction page every few seconds during the last minutes
of an auction to make sure you are not outbid.
6.) You may find yourself outbid, and not have time
to place another bid before the auction closes.
7.) If you are bidding early in the auction - you are
tied to this one auction item, and can not bid on another
item like it until the auction ends (even if it's a
better item at a better price). If you bid on more than
one auction item - you may win both and have to pay
for both.
Proxy
Bidding
Proxy
bidding is the backbone that eBay is built upon. You
determine the absolute maximum amount you are willing
to pay for the item and enter one single bid - eBay
does all the bidding for you, they will use just enough
of your bid to keep you in the lead - letting you win
the item for as low a price as possible.
Disadvantages:
1.)
Your bidding history is available to anyone doing a
search by bidder. You may be used as a search engine
for competing bidders.
2.) Your bid may be artificially raised by a less than
honest seller bidding on their own auction item, in
order to expose your maximum bid.
3.) You may be exposed to 'enemy' bidders whose only
goal is to run up your bid.
4.) Your bid may be run up by an incremental bidders
in a bidding war.
5.) You are committed to this single auction item for
the remainder of the auction - you are not free to move
on to bid on another item even if you are outbid (you
may be re-instated as high bidder).
Advantages:
1.) You only have to bid once.
2.) eBay does all of the bidding for you
3.) The only auctions you will lose are those where
another bidder was willing to pay more than the item
was worth to you.
4.) You do not need to be present at the end of the
auction and be ready to bid again.
5.) You do not have to constantly keep track of the
auctions progress.
6.) You do not have to worry about being outbid at the
end of the auction - because any bid that outbids you
was placed for more than you were willing to spend.
Time
Conscious Proxy Bidding
Time
Conscious Proxy Bidding (sniping) is placing your maximum
proxy bid in the very last seconds of the auction.
Disadvantages:
1.) You cannot bid again - you must live with the amount
of your bid. If you place a bid that is not of sufficient
amount to win the auction, you will lose. You cannot
reconsider bidding more as the auction has already ended.
2.) A PC problem may prevent the bid from being recorded
prior to the end of the auction.
3.) Internet slow downs and congestion may prevent the
bid from being recorded prior to the end of the auction
- you will not have time to bid again.
4.) An eBay server outage may prevent the bid from being
recorded - you will not have time to bid again.
5.) An eBay software glitch may prevent the bid from
being recorded - you will not have time to bid again.
6.) A mistyped password or user ID may prevent the bid
from being recorded.
7.) You cannot retract their bid for an incorrect bid
amount - they must live with any typographical error
that is entered - even if it means bidding $2000.00
on a $20.00 item.
8.) A bidder must be very diligent in maintaining a
watched item list - they may 'forget' the ending time
of an auction - and fail to bid.
9.) You must be present or make arrangements for placing
your bid at the end of the auction - sometimes these
are at very unreasonable hours.
Advantages:
1.) You do not need to commit to a single auction item.
You can watch many different items without having your
money tied up into a single item for days on end. You
may abandon an item at any time to bid on another item,
or use a BIN.
2.) You can avoid 'bid shielding' - since a bid shielding
scheme would require a retraction of the shielding bid
prior to the last 12 hours of an auction - you can be
sure that the proxy bids are the valid amounts for the
bidders in the auction, and are not artificially inflated.
3.) You can avoid 'shilling' of the auction by the seller
- you have almost the entire length of an auction to
evaluate the full bidding pattern of the auction - and
can identify any possible bidding irregularities.
4.) You can remain anonymous. You can avoid competing
bidders researching their prior bidding habits and proxy
amounts - and using this knowledge against you.
5.) You can avoid bid stalkers, enemy bidders, incremental
bidders, and sport bidders.
6.) You will know almost immediately the result of your
bid and whether or not you won the auction. |